Legislature(2013 - 2014)CAPITOL 106

04/07/2014 08:00 AM House EDUCATION


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           HR 9-DELAY IMPLEMENTATION OF ED STANDARDS                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:04:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS announced that the  first order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE RESOLUTION NO. 9, Urging  the commissioner of education and                                                               
early  development and  the state  Board of  Education and  Early                                                               
Development  to  delay   implementation  of  statewide  education                                                               
standards.  [Before the committee was Version U.]                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:04:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   TAMMIE   WILSON,   Alaska   State   Legislature,                                                               
testifying as prime  sponsor of HR 9, asked to  clarify that HR 9                                                               
does  not delay  [implementation of  academic standards  or other                                                               
changes in the classroom].                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:05:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD moved  to adopt  the proposed  committee                                                               
substitute  (CS)  for  HR  9,  Version  N,  labeled  28-LS1224\N,                                                               
Bullard,  4/2/14,  as  the  working document.    There  being  no                                                               
objection, Version N was before the committee.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:06:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE T. WILSON explained the  process leading up to the                                                               
development of the  proposed committee substitute (CS)  for HR 9,                                                               
Version N.  At the beginning  of the school year, the [Task Force                                                               
on Sustainable  Education (TFSE)]  heard statewide  concerns over                                                               
the  Common Core  State  Standards  (CCSS), teacher  evaluations,                                                               
school  grading under  a star  system, and  new testing  methods.                                                               
The Task Force [on Sustainable  Education (TFSE)] heard testimony                                                               
that school  districts weren't ready  for testing and there  is a                                                               
need to  slow down to  allow individual districts to  comply with                                                               
the  new  requirements.    Since   then,  the  Alaska  [academic]                                                               
standards  have   been  put  in   place,  and   districts  better                                                               
understand  what teacher  development and  evaluation entails  so                                                               
most  districts  have  embraced   the  changes.    However,  many                                                               
districts recognize  implementing these  changes will  take time.                                                               
She indicated that  HR 9 is before the committee  since the state                                                               
has signed  the [Elementary and  Secondary Education  Act] waiver                                                               
so  No Child  Left  Behind (NCLB)  is no  longer  required.   She                                                               
offered her  belief that  the state  has tried  to work  within a                                                               
system that ultimately didn't work.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE T.  WILSON explained  that the  proposed committee                                                               
substitute  (CS)  for  HR  9,  Version N,  will  require  a  cost                                                               
evaluation  to  assess  the  costs  to  implement  the  necessary                                                               
changes.   One of the  main things  the [NCLB] waiver  changes is                                                               
testing,  so  questions  have arisen  as  to  whether  sufficient                                                               
infrastructure  exists  for  online testing  in  some  districts.                                                               
Further, fiscal  notes are  limited to  identifying costs  to the                                                               
state  but  don't  consider  any costs  to  school  districts  or                                                               
municipalities.   She  referred  to pages  2-3,  to the  resolved                                                               
sections  of Version  N,  which recognize  that  the state  can't                                                               
assess the  total costs to implement  the aforementioned changes.                                                               
The  language in  Version  N would  request  the commissioner  to                                                               
report  back   to  the  legislature   on  costs   for  curriculum                                                               
alignment, technological  improvements, teacher  preparation, and                                                               
new standard based assessment costs  for each district.  Further,                                                               
the resolved  clauses would make it  clear that the state  is not                                                               
moving forward to adopt the  CCSS initiative.  She commented that                                                               
the initiative  was pushed forward  on a national level,  but the                                                               
state declined to opt in.   She acknowledged that the state's new                                                               
[academic]  standards  include  some  of the  Common  Core  State                                                               
Standard (CCSS) language, but not  100 percent.  One advantage of                                                               
the waiver  is that it allows  the state to make  changes without                                                               
going back  to the national  consortium.  She offered  her belief                                                               
that  if the  state had  adopted the  CCSS, it  would have  meant                                                               
adopting  the standards  as a  whole.   Finally, the  waiver also                                                               
means the  state won't be part  of a national data  system, which                                                               
helps  ensure the  data  system  is one  the  state develops  and                                                               
access is also limited to the state.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:09:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  directed attention  to page 3,  lines 1-5,                                                               
and  his interest  on how  this might  affect the  WICHE [Western                                                               
Interstate  Compact on  Higher Education],  noting  he serves  on                                                               
this  commission.   He asked  whether any  adverse impacts  exist                                                               
between  the  initiatives that  WICHE  is  involved in  and  this                                                               
language.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE T. WILSON answered no.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:10:35 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    SEATON    requested   further    clarification,                                                               
summarizing  the language  on page  3,  lines 1-5,  of Version  N                                                               
which read,"  ... may not enter  into or renew an  agreement with                                                               
any organization, entity, group,  or consortium that requires the                                                               
state  to cede  any measure  of  autonomy of  control over  state                                                               
education standards  and assessments, including cut  scores."  He                                                               
mentioned  that organizations  like WICHE  consist of  agreements                                                               
between  states.    He questioned  whether  this  language  could                                                               
interfere with those agreements.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  T. WILSON  replied  that the  state isn't  ceding                                                               
autonomy  or   control  over  standards  in   the  aforementioned                                                               
program.    The  state's  expectation  would  be  to  provide  an                                                               
opportunity to  join programs.   She  assured members  this would                                                               
have absolutely  no effect  since the state  doesn't give  up its                                                               
control.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON asked  for further  clarification on  this                                                               
issue   from   the   commissioner  to   gain   the   department's                                                               
perspective.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS acknowledged the question will be held.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:12:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  asked for any implications  Version N has                                                               
on the NCLB waiver.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE T. WILSON responded  that this resolution will not                                                               
have any effect on the NCLB  waiver.  The resolution requests the                                                               
department  ensure  the waiver  request  is  serving the  state's                                                               
expectations  and   to  identify  any  associated   costs.    She                                                               
described the  effects of  NCLB and  the intent  to not  follow a                                                               
similar path  of problems.   Identifying costs to  districts will                                                               
be more beneficial to everyone, she said.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER referred  to page  1, lines  10-13, which                                                               
read:                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     WHEREAS, in  May 2013, the United  States Department of                                                                  
     Education granted  to the  Department of  Education and                                                                    
     Early  Development a  flexibility  waiver of  specified                                                                    
     provisions of  the No  Child Left  Behind Act  of 2001,                                                                    
     that  amended the  Elementary  and Secondary  Education                                                                    
     Act, based in part on  the college and career readiness                                                                    
     standards; and                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER asked  for further  clarification on  the                                                               
basis  for her  determination that  it will  not affect  the NCLB                                                               
waiver.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  T.  WILSON  responded   that  the  state  has  an                                                               
agreement on the NCLB waiver.   This resolution does not say that                                                               
the state  wants to  "break it at  all."  She  hoped that  if the                                                               
state  identified any  issues, the  state  could renegotiate  the                                                               
NCLB waiver,  which some states  have already done.   She offered                                                               
an example of electronic testing  applications to illustrate that                                                               
an instance could  arise in which the state might  not be able to                                                               
meet  the  testing   in  all  districts  so  it   would  have  to                                                               
renegotiate that portion of the waiver or be out of compliance.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER asked  for the  timeline for  negotiating                                                               
the NCLB waiver.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  T. WILSON  related  her  understanding the  state                                                               
could go back  to address issues at any time;  however, she urged                                                               
the  importance of  identifying issues  early in  order to  avoid                                                               
costs to  districts.  She offered  her belief that the  state has                                                               
not sufficiently vetted these changes.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:15:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P.   WILSON  pointed  out  that   throughout  the                                                               
resolution requests the  department to do things.   She asked for                                                               
further clarification on the fiscal impact.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE T.  WILSON answered  that many costs  were covered                                                               
in  obtaining  the  waiver  but deferred  to  the  department  to                                                               
answer.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:16:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX referred  to page 2, lines  3-5, of Version                                                               
N which  points out the lack  of funding in districts  to conduct                                                               
online testing.   She asked whether the districts  have asked for                                                               
a delay in the implementation of standards.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  T.  WILSON explained  that  HR  9, Version  N  no                                                               
longer  requests   a  delay  and   this  whereas   clause  merely                                                               
highlights that  compliance with online testing  may be difficult                                                               
for many districts that don't have sufficient broadband access.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX   asked  whether   requesting  significant                                                               
evaluation prior to doing something represents a delay.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  T.  WILSON  answered  absolutely  not;  that  the                                                               
[academic]  standards exist,  the curriculum  is being  purchased                                                               
and  [student] testing  will  begin  next year.    She cited  the                                                               
importance of  having a  review to  ensure compliance,  to assess                                                               
associated  costs  to  districts,  and to  confirm  this  is  the                                                               
correct path for the state to take.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:19:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P.   WILSON  asked  whether  the   House  Finance                                                               
Committee has  reviewed this  to ensure  that the  department has                                                               
the funding necessary for compliance.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  T.  WILSON assumed  most  of  the information  is                                                               
available  since the  department  wouldn't have  sought a  waiver                                                               
from NCLB unless the EED understood the costs.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:20:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P.  WILSON  expressed  concern  about  requesting                                                               
action  from the  Department of  Education and  Early Development                                                               
(EED)   without  ensuring   that   districts,  especially   rural                                                               
districts have adequate funding.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS responded that is the purpose of the resolution.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:22:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON asked  for  further  clarification on  the                                                               
waiver.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:23:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER MIKE  HANLEY, Commissioner, Department  of Education                                                               
and Early  Development (EED),  explained that  the No  Child Left                                                               
Behind (NCLB) program  required specific proficiency achievements                                                               
and as a result many  schools were erroneously deemed as failures                                                               
for not  making adequate progress  even though 90 percent  of the                                                               
students in  a school met  the proficiency.  The  Congress needed                                                               
to  make  changes to  address  this,  but  in the  meantime  U.S.                                                               
Secretary Duncan offered waivers to  states from the most onerous                                                               
parts of NCLB,  away from the adequate yearly  progress (AYP) and                                                               
the necessity  that specific proficiency achievements  are at 100                                                               
percent.  Alaska  developed its academic standards  a year before                                                               
the waiver  was issued.   An assessment is required,  which makes                                                               
sense, he  said.  This  has helped the  state move away  from AYP                                                               
and  to  an  accountability  system   called  the  Alaska  School                                                               
Performance  Index (ASPI).   He  said the  ASPI is  the five-star                                                               
system,  which   more  fairly  assesses  and   reflects  what  is                                                               
happening in our schools.   In addition, the department needed to                                                               
make  a   component  of  teacher  evaluations   tied  to  student                                                               
learning.  The state was working  on three of four components and                                                               
the  state  was very  willing  to  shift  from  AYP to  the  ASPI                                                               
accountability.   He recapped  that the waiver  is from  parts of                                                               
NCLB, but does not affect standards.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:25:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SADDLER   referred  to  the  second   point,  the                                                               
assessment and asked whether he  meant assessing the standards or                                                               
assessing by using the new standards.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HANLEY  answered that it  is to assess  the students                                                               
on the new academic standards.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER asked whether  these standards can be used                                                               
for assessment purposes.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  HANLEY answered  that is  correct; but  even if  it                                                               
hadn't  been a  requirement, the  state has  a responsibility  to                                                               
ensure that the state is assessing what teachers are teaching.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:26:40 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND recalled  there are  four components  to                                                               
the waiver  from NCLB.   She asked  for further  clarification on                                                               
the four components.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  HANLEY  answered  that  the  four  components  that                                                               
needed to  be assessed in  the waiver  are the need  for rigorous                                                               
standards,  assessments of  students  based on  the standards,  a                                                               
separate  accountability system,  and commitment  to tie  teacher                                                               
evaluations partially to student learning.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:27:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD  asked for  the legal obligations  to the                                                               
state regarding  the NCLB  waiver and if  any federal  funding is                                                               
tied to the waiver.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HANLEY answered that there  isn't a threat of losing                                                               
federal  dollars under  the NCLB  waiver,  but the  state made  a                                                               
commitment to follow  through on the components.   Certainly, the                                                               
U.S. EED  could revoke  the waiver  and the  state would  be back                                                               
under NCLB  and develop strategies  to address schools  that were                                                               
deemed as failures.  He  questioned whether the obligations would                                                               
be considered  legal obligations, but acknowledged  the state has                                                               
a responsibility to maintain its waiver.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS remarked that NCLB was not working for Alaska.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:28:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  asked whether  HR 9  poses any  threat to                                                               
the  timeline  to evaluate  the  CCR  [college career  readiness]                                                               
assessments.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  HANLEY responded  that  he  initially had  concerns                                                               
when a  delay was suggested; however,  he did not think  that the                                                               
current version  of HR  9, Version N,  would cause  problems with                                                               
the waiver since they urge  the department to provide information                                                               
without setting up specific timelines.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:29:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P. WILSON  pointed  out that  some  areas of  the                                                               
state  do not  have  broadband capabilities  for compliance  with                                                               
online testing.   She asked  whether he has  requested additional                                                               
funding for  broadband or any other  solution.  In response  to a                                                               
question, she assumed the department  knew some districts did not                                                               
have  adequate  technology.   She  asked  whether any  additional                                                               
funding was requested.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  HANLEY  acknowledged  the importance  of  broadband                                                               
although  he  noted  the  EED  doesn't  have  expertise  in  this                                                               
technology;  however,  the  department  has  partnered  with  the                                                               
Department of Commerce, Community  & Economic Development and the                                                               
Broadband  Task  Force  on  this.     He  pointed  out  that  the                                                               
department is the consumer in terms of broadband bandwidth.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:31:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GATTIS  asked whether  the  department  has an  assessment                                                               
program that requires students to use online testing.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HANLEY answered no.   However, he elaborated that it                                                               
is timely  to look at  using 21st  Century tools to  the greatest                                                               
extent possible,  which would be  to use  Internet-based testing.                                                               
The  next best  tool  would  be to  use  caching,  which is  also                                                               
computer-based, but  that process  allows the  test to  be housed                                                               
locally  and  accessed using  the  local  server instead  of  the                                                               
Internet.    Finally, in  areas  of  the  state that  lack  these                                                               
technology  capabilities, the  department  will  continue to  use                                                               
paper and pencil  testing.  He recapped that  the department will                                                               
use the  best tools possible  to measure  students.  It  may take                                                               
time to get all students using computers, he said.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:33:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P.  WILSON asked  how close  the department  is to                                                               
accomplishing these technological changes.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HANLEY  answered that a technology  readiness survey                                                               
has been  completed and  80 percent  of the  schools are  able to                                                               
comply.  He estimated 95 percent  of the students will be served,                                                               
he  said.   The testing  window can  be expanded  to embrace  the                                                               
modes being employed, he said.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:35:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE P.  WILSON asked  whether it  is possible  to test                                                               
students using paper and pencil.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HANLEY answered absolutely,  noting that the request                                                               
for proposals (RFPs)  requires all three options  be available in                                                               
order for a bid to be  considered responsive.  He maintained that                                                               
the department and its testing  vendor are fully prepared to give                                                               
the test in the three aforementioned modalities.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:35:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE LEDOUX asked for  further clarification on whether                                                               
it matters  if this  is a resolution  versus a bill  and if  HR 9                                                               
[Version N]  asks the department  to do  anything that it  is not                                                               
currently doing.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HANLEY referred to  the resolve clauses beginning on                                                               
page 2, line 10, of Version  N, and responded that the department                                                               
has  verified   the  college  and  career   readiness  standards.                                                               
Referring to  page 2, line  16, he said  the EED can  provide the                                                               
specific  information  to  ensure  the  national  benchmarks  for                                                               
college.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  LEDOUX  asked how  the  requests  in the  resolve                                                               
clauses will be handled if these aren't already being addressed.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HANLEY  agreed there are differences  between a bill                                                               
and  a resolution;  however, he  also understands  the intent  of                                                               
this body.   He assured  members he would  not "snub his  nose at                                                               
any  urging from  this body"  and would  do his  best to  address                                                               
them.   He acknowledged  he would have  been challenged  to delay                                                               
the implementation as required under  the original version of the                                                               
resolution.    He  agreed  that calculating  some  of  the  costs                                                               
involved in  the resolve clause  to determine the costs  for each                                                               
district will  be challenging.   He  acknowledged that  the EED's                                                               
regulations require  the district to review  its curriculum every                                                               
six years  so a  cycle of review  and shifting  curriculum should                                                               
exist.  [Referring  to page 2, line 25], he  pointed out it would                                                               
be  helpful  to further  understand  what  would be  included  in                                                               
"calculate the related costs" since he  was unsure how far to go.                                                               
He  pointed out  that  it will  take  the department  significant                                                               
effort  to determine  costs for  each district  and if  it is  to                                                               
provide districts with  funding, it is worthwhile, but  not if it                                                               
"will lay fallow" without having any meaning.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:39:21 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS related her understanding  that the resolution is to                                                               
not impose another unfunded mandate  to districts.  She viewed HR
9 [Version N] as a  suggestion, noted the department's intention,                                                               
and thought of it as "a working relationship."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:40:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON referred to page  2, lines 27-31 of Version                                                               
N, which read:                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     FURTHER RESOLVED  by the House of  Representatives that                                                                  
     neither   the  Department   of   Education  and   Early                                                                    
     Development nor the state Board  of Education and Early                                                                    
     Development  shall expend  any money  to implement  the                                                                    
     set  of  educational  curriculum standards  for  grades                                                                    
     kindergarten through 12 established  by the Common Core                                                                    
     State Standards Initiative; and be it                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON asked for  further clarification on whether                                                               
this means no  money can be spent on the  three largest districts                                                               
of the  state that  adopted the CCSS  through their  local school                                                               
boards  or  if  the  districts in  question  have  retracted  the                                                               
adoption  of  the  CCSS  and  are  using  the  Alaska  [academic]                                                               
standards that were subsequently developed.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  HANLEY  responded  that the  department  could  not                                                               
provide  training for  districts that  have taken  up the  common                                                               
core  standards   prior  to  the  state   adopting  the  modified                                                               
[academic] standards.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  asked  for  an explanation  of  how  this                                                               
resolve will  affect the department  and the districts  that have                                                               
adopted  the CCSS,  such as  the Anchorage  School District.   He                                                               
further  asked  which districts  adopted  the  Common Core  State                                                               
Standards (CCSS).                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  HANLEY  identified   several  districts,  including                                                               
Anchorage, Juneau, and Copper River.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON asked for  further clarification on how the                                                               
department's interaction  will be with respect  to implementation                                                               
of academic educational standards.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:42:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS  asked whether the aforementioned  districts will be                                                               
treated differently.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HANLEY  answered that  from the  educational support                                                               
aspect, there  will be  no difference,  but for  specific support                                                               
regarding  the  [academic]  standards.   He  suggested  that  the                                                               
department will  likely point out the  differences and strategies                                                               
for districts.   He suggested  that helping  districts understand                                                               
how  the   individual  curriculum  aligns  with   the  [academic]                                                               
standards will be beneficial.   He confirmed the department could                                                               
support districts  in the same way,  recognizing the differences,                                                               
and focusing on them.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:43:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON referred to page  3, lines 3-4 of Version N                                                               
which read,"  ... may not enter  into or renew an  agreement with                                                               
any organization, entity, group,  or consortium that requires the                                                               
state  to cede  any measure  of  autonomy or  control over  state                                                               
education standards  and assessments, including cut  scores."  He                                                               
asked whether  are there  any agreements  or compacts  that would                                                               
not be  allowed to be renewed  under this language.   He referred                                                               
to his earlier concern with the WICHE program.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HANLEY noted  that the state is  involved in several                                                               
consortiums,  such  as  the   English  Language  Learners  (ELL).                                                               
However, the  [academic] standards are  already in place  and the                                                               
state has  full autonomy to change  them as it sees  fit.  Surely                                                               
the ELL consortium has nothing  to do with controlling standards,                                                               
he said.   He did not  believe any of the  consortiums would ever                                                               
cede  any measure  of autonomy  or control  over state  education                                                               
standards and assessments.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:45:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD  acknowledged she has struggled  with the                                                               
initiative and has received letters  that confirm her skepticism.                                                               
She  pointed out  a myriad  of  issues with  the CCSS,  including                                                               
language  barriers,  literacy   issues,  classroom  size  issues,                                                               
limited resources  in the  classrooms, and  a lack  of vocational                                                               
technology in many  schools.  She indicated that  the state needs                                                               
to encourage  parental involvement.   She questioned  whether the                                                               
standards  are the  issue  and asked  for  assurances that  these                                                               
standards are  globally competitive,  will encourage  morale, and                                                               
result  in  better  outcomes.   She  specifically  asked  whether                                                               
students will be more ready for the job market.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HANLEY  responded that  the idea that  the standards                                                               
will help  children be more  prepared is, first, a  comparison of                                                               
where the state was with the  old standards, and second, with the                                                               
review of the  new standards.  Most states adopted  the CCSS, but                                                               
this state  has not.   The department  had Diane  Hirschberg from                                                               
the University  of Alaska compare  Alaska's new standards  to the                                                               
university professors  and career and technical  instructors.  He                                                               
said he  is confident that  these standards will aim  students on                                                               
the  trajectory   to  prepare  them  for   college  or  technical                                                               
training.   He questioned whether  morale and obtaining  jobs are                                                               
necessarily the expectation  of a set of standards.   Instead, it                                                               
outlines what should be learned by certain grade levels.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:47:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD clarified  she  is  speaking to  teacher                                                               
morale and  parental involvement.   She asked what  percentage of                                                               
the Alaska  academic standards align  with the Common  Core State                                                               
Standards (CCSS).                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:48:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUSAN   MCCAULEY,  Director,   Teaching  and   Learning  Support,                                                               
Department  of Education  and Early  Development (EED),  answered                                                               
that the  analysis the department  has shared is that  in English                                                               
Language Arts, 42  percent of the 320 standards,  or 133 specific                                                               
standards have  some differences  from the  CCSS.   While someone                                                               
may  qualify  some  of  the  differences  as  grammatical,  those                                                               
differences   represent   the   work  of   nearly   300   Alaskan                                                               
stakeholders  who went  line-by-line  through  the standards  and                                                               
determined what  should be included  or excluded.  She  related a                                                               
scenario to  illustrate that  Alaskan educators  do not  find the                                                               
changes as minor, technical, or  grammatical changes.  Instead it                                                               
means that  the state is providing  support to students in  a way                                                               
that corollary Common  Core State Standards would  not.  Further,                                                               
someone  might  consider  additional words  added  as  culturally                                                               
relevant  reading   material  as  being  a   technical  or  minor                                                               
adjustment;  however,   Alaskan  educators  who  worked   on  the                                                               
standards  did   not  find   them  to   be  technical   or  minor                                                               
adjustments.     She  concluded  that  42   percent  of  Alaska's                                                               
standards have  differences from the Common  Core State Standards                                                               
(CCSS).  In math, 49  percent of Alaska's standards are different                                                               
from  the CCSS.    Certainly, individuals  can interpret  whether                                                               
changes  from  the CCSS  are  considered  grammatical, minor,  or                                                               
substantive, but  again, the Alaskan  Standards reflect  the work                                                               
of  Alaska's educators  who determined  exactly and  specifically                                                               
what should be included.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:50:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD  asked  whether districts  can  purchase                                                               
CCSS aligned  curriculum and more specifically,  what choices are                                                               
available.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MCCAULEY   answered  that  the   language  in   statute  and                                                               
regulations  gives the  discretion to  the local  district.   The                                                               
district would undertake  a process not at all  dissimilar to the                                                               
current  purchase of  the curriculum  materials.   She  indicated                                                               
that  the  district needs  to  ensure  an alignment  between  the                                                               
resources   and  the   standards,   sometimes   described  as   a                                                               
"crosswalk" between  the materials and  the standards.   She said                                                               
if  a  set  of  CCSS  materials that  through  a  "crosswalk"  is                                                               
determined to  adequately cover Alaska's standards,  the district                                                               
can use  the materials.   However, if a  set of materials  is not                                                               
purported to be CCSS aligned  materials and has adequate matching                                                               
to  Alaska's [academic]  standards  the district  could also  use                                                               
those  materials.   Districts can  use materials  that adequately                                                               
align to the Alaska English, Language Arts, and Math standards.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:51:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS  related her understanding that  the department does                                                               
not  get  involved in  authorizing  curricula,  but rather  those                                                               
decisions are  made at the  district level.  Thus,  each district                                                               
might adopt specific  curriculum that doesn't align  with the new                                                               
state standards.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. MCCAULEY agreed that it  is possible; however, the department                                                               
provides professional  development to  district in  the processes                                                               
to  ensure  an  alignment  between  Alaska's  standards  and  the                                                               
curriculum materials  the district  purchase.  She  maintained it                                                               
is a local decision since resources are adopted by local boards.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GATTIS stated  that the  local district  makes the  choice                                                               
regarding specific  curriculum and the department  gives advices,                                                               
but does not provide approval or denial.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. MCCAULEY agreed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:53:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD  indicated that if the  state standard is                                                               
changed, the  curriculum may not  be aligned to it  and therefore                                                               
the  assessment may  not  be aligned  although  teachers will  be                                                               
evaluated.    She  said  a   circle  exists  for  curriculum  and                                                               
evaluation/assessment.    She  questioned whether  the  districts                                                               
have any  freedom.  Once  the [academic] standards are  in place,                                                               
and the  school's curriculum is purchased,  assessments are done,                                                               
and  evaluations  can impact  the  teachers.   She  related  that                                                               
numerous states  are trying to  stop the [CCSS] initiative.   She                                                               
recalled the  commissioner saying the state  has a responsibility                                                               
with the [NCLB] waiver, but there isn't any associated funding.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HANLEY  agreed the  state has a  responsibility with                                                               
the  [NCLB] waiver;  however, the  [academic]  standards are  not                                                               
driven by  the waiver.   The state's  standards have  allowed the                                                               
state to obtain  the waiver.  The state could  give up the waiver                                                               
and still have good [academic] standards, he said.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:55:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER referred to page  2, line 20 and asked how                                                               
the state would "maintain state sovereignty."                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  HANLEY responded  that even  without HR  9 [Version                                                               
N], he has  a moral obligation to not give  up state sovereignty.                                                               
He couldn't envision  a situation that would cause him  to make a                                                               
decision to sacrifice  state sovereignty.  He  offered his belief                                                               
that  this language  came about  when the  state joined  "Smarter                                                               
Balance" as an advisory state  and some people expressed concern.                                                               
The state  stepped away from  "Smarter Balance"; still,  it never                                                               
gave anything up.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:56:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SADDLER  asked whether the commissioner  will have                                                               
to  exercise  that  judgment with  Common  Core  State  Standards                                                               
{CCSS).                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  HANLEY answered  that it  has raised  questions for                                                               
some, but  not for him.   One of the primary  reasons that Alaska                                                               
was  one  of four  states  that  didn't  adopt  the CCSS  was  it                                                               
required  states to  fully adopt  the standards.   Although  some                                                               
standards are good,  such as children should  know their alphabet                                                               
in kindergarten, it imposed rules  limiting what states could do.                                                               
The department  wanted the  ability to  make ongoing  changes and                                                               
not allow someone else to  set Alaska's [academic] standards.  In                                                               
further response to  a question, he agreed  the department wanted                                                               
to avoid that threat.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:58:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GATTIS  asked  whether  the  phrase  "college  and  career                                                               
readiness" takes on a specific meaning in the waiver.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HANLEY  answered that the  phrase has been  used and                                                               
predates  the CCSS.   The  statutes require  the state  to ensure                                                               
that  students are  prepared to  be successful  in education  and                                                               
work, which essentially outlines the goals for education.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS  related her understanding that  "college and career                                                               
readiness" doesn't relate to Common Core State Standards (CCSS).                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:00:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   DRUMMOND   asked   whether   Alaska's   academic                                                               
standards are  sufficiently different from the  Common Core State                                                               
Standards (CCSS).                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HANLEY  answered that  the basic guidelines  for the                                                               
Common  Core   State  Standards   (CCSS)  required   100  percent                                                               
adoption.   Therefore,  changing one  line meant  that the  state                                                               
wouldn't adopt  the CCSS.  The  EED's goal hasn't been  to create                                                               
academic standards that are sufficiently  different, but to adopt                                                               
standards that  are rigorous and  comparable so  Alaskan students                                                               
can compete  with other students  and possess the same  skill set                                                               
as  other  U.S.  students  when  they  leave  high  school.    He                                                               
acknowledged the  committee could walk  line by line  through the                                                               
state's  academic standards,  but any  changes in  the [academic]                                                               
standards, such as adding "with  scaffolding and support" doesn't                                                               
change  the  expectation,  but  it  does  change  how  the  state                                                               
achieves  the  standard.    It   changes  measurement  since  the                                                               
districts will provide students  with additional support, but the                                                               
target is the same.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:01:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. MCCAULEY  added that the  Memorandum of Agreement  (MOA) that                                                               
states who adopted the Common  Core State Standards (CCSS) signed                                                               
restricted and  limited any  changes to  the standards,  but also                                                               
allowed states to  add up to 15 percent  in additional standards.                                                               
From  the   department's  perspective  of  owning   the  academic                                                               
standards,  those  types  of  rules  and  restrictions  were  not                                                               
palatable to  Alaska.   The state wanted  to have  the capability                                                               
and  flexibility  to  make  changes  to  the  academic  standards                                                               
through the  local processes in  statutes and  regulation without                                                               
restrictions from an outside entity.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND asked whether  student scores on national                                                               
tests  reflect  well on  the  academic  standards the  state  has                                                               
adopted, the  Alaska [academic] standards,  or if the  state will                                                               
continue to  hear criticism that Alaskan  students cannot compete                                                               
on a national level.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  HANLEY  emphasized  that it  critical  that  Alaska                                                               
standards not be less rigorous or  expected less of students.  He                                                               
related  that  the  state  participates  in  the  NAEP  [National                                                               
Assessment of Educational Progress],  and he anticipates students                                                               
will  be able  to compete  at an  even higher  level and  achieve                                                               
higher scores than at present.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND  related   her  understanding  that  the                                                               
Alaska academic standards are more  rigorous than the Common Core                                                               
State Standards (CCSS).                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER HANLEY answered  yes; in terms of  rigor, the Alaska                                                               
[academic] standards are equal or greater.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:04:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  referred  to  page  3, line  3  of  HR  9                                                               
[Version N],  and asked  whether any  compacts or  consortiums or                                                               
existing entities be affected.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
DIANE  BARRANS,   Executive  Director,   Postsecondary  Education                                                               
Commission, Department of Education  and Early Development (EED),                                                               
indicated  that the  context  of the  resolution  speaks to  K-12                                                               
standards.   The  state participates  in  the Western  Interstate                                                               
Commission  on Higher  Education  (WICHE), which  is a  statutory                                                               
compact  that does  not  pertain  to K-12  standards  and is  not                                                               
periodically renewed.   The state could repeal  its membership in                                                               
WICHE; however, one interstate agreement  that the state has been                                                               
considering  is the  state  authorization reciprocity  agreement,                                                               
which  is  a  multi-state  effort   to  apply  uniform  rules  of                                                               
operation for  distance delivered  programs.  Although  she noted                                                               
she is not an attorney, she  offered her belief that it would not                                                               
apply  to the  State Authorization  Reciprocity Agreement  (SARA)                                                               
for distance delivered postsecondary programs.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:06:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  again  referred  to page  3,  line  3  of                                                               
Version N.  He asked whether  the sponsor agrees with Ms. Barrans                                                               
that  the  distance  delivery  of  standards  or  curriculum  for                                                               
education would not fall under the further resolved clause.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  T.  WILSON  answered  that she  agrees  with  Ms.                                                               
Barrans.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:07:44 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD  moved to  report the  proposed committee                                                               
substitute  (CS)  for  HR  9,  Version  N,  labeled  28-LS1224\N,                                                               
Bullard,    4/2/14,   out    of    committee   with    individual                                                               
recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE DRUMMOND objected.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:08:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll call  vote was  taken.   Representatives Seaton,  LeDoux,                                                               
Saddler, Reinbold,  and Gattis  voted in  favor of  reporting the                                                               
proposed committee  substitute (CS) for  HR 9, Version N,  out of                                                               
committee.      Representatives   Drummond  voted   against   it.                                                               
Therefore,  the  CSHR  9(EDC)  was  reported  out  of  the  House                                                               
Education Standing Committee by a vote of 5-1.                                                                                  

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